31 out of 33 people found the following comment useful :- Excellent WWII Action Piece and Representation of 60s Pop Culture, 28 marzo 2005
Author:
SgtSlaughter da St. Davids, Pennsylvania, USA
Acclaimed director Robert Aldrich (also famous to war film buffs for
his rule-breaking drama, "Attack") twists the familiar 'unit picture'
into a famous story of unexpected heroism in the midst of World War II.
Instead of making his heroes clean-cut, American draftees, we're
looking at the dirtiest convicts the Armed Forces has got to offer.
OSS Major Reisman (Lee Marvin, "Hell in the Pacific") is an
insubordinate Army officer who's facing a court-martial, when he's
given one last chance for a reprieve: select twelve Army prisoners from
a maximum-security detention center, train them for a top-secret
mission behind the German lines, and then lead them into battle. If
they succeed in the mission, they'll be released. For Reisman, it's a
tough call, but it's his only chance to save his career.
The men he was to work with are a mixed batch, and director Aldrich
packs a lot of character development into a two-and-a-half-hour movie.
The most important of the "Dirty Dozen" is Franko, a small-time Chicago
hoodlum who's facing the gallows for robbery and subsequent murder of a
British civilian. It's clear from the start that Franko is a loner who
thinks he's big stuff, but Reisman manages to prove that he's really
all talk. More than once, he considers and even attempts escape from
the remote training camp that the Dozen are forced to build but
maybe, just maybe, beneath that rebellious attitude, there's a chance
for redemption.
Then there are some more sympathetic types: Wladislaw (Charles Bronson,
"Battle of the Bulge") was once a front-line infantryman who shot his
platoon's medic when the medic got scared under fire and started
running Bronson says "He took off with all the medical supplies only
way to stop him was to shoot him." Jefferson (Jim Brown, "Ice Station
Zebra") has been convicted for murder his defense is he was defending
himself from vicious, racist MPs who were abusing him. Wladislaw and
Jefferson find themselves allied in order to get Franko on their side,
because they have faith in Reisman and aren't willing to let Franko's
rebellion become infectious.
Also in fine support is Clint Walker ("None But the Brave") as the big
Navajo, Posey, who punched a man too hard for shoving him. He really
didn't mean to kill him; he just doesn't like being pushes. Posey comes
off as a cuddly teddy bear who'd never intentionally hurt a soul, and
it's clear from the start that he's one of the good guys. Finally,
Telly Savalas ("Kelly's Heroes") lends a hand as the psychotic, racist,
religious fanatic Maggot, who believes his job is to punish the other
11 men for their "wickedness". His motives are never really clear; all
we really know is that Maggot is somewhat unhinged and potentially
dangerous.
Even though Reisman and his squad don't get along, they're forced to
become Allied against a common enemy the American General Staff, who
want to do nothing short of shut the operation down. Aldrich again
breaks the rules, making the conventionally "good guys" into the enemy.
The Germans are barely mentioned throughout the first two acts, and
only become involved for the explosive finale. The heart of this movie
is anti-establishment behavior, right in the vein of popular Vietnam
attitudes. The good guys are the unshaven criminals, and the bad guys
are the clean-cut, well-dressed Generals who come across as stupid and
vain. As Colonel Everett Dasher Breed, Robert Ryan ("Flying
Leathernecks") makes an excellent bully, a villain that the Dozen
eventually unite to take action against.
Once the men have been trained and are finally cooperating and acting
as a unit, it's time to set them loose on the Nazis. And still, the
story doesn't become stereotypical. The mission is simple: the men will
parachute into occupied France, penetrate a château being used as a
rest center for high-level German officers, and kill as many of said
officers as possible in a short amount of time. This operation involves
stabbing defenseless women, machine-gunning prisoners, and finally,
locking several dozen German officers and their mistresses in an
underground bomb shelter, pouring gasoline down on them through air
vent, loading said air vents with hand grenades, and then blowing up
the whole place.
Characters and story aside, the film benefits from some superb editing
by Michael Luciano. Director Aldrich and cinematographer Edward Scaife
work hand in hand to compose every shot. The cramped, dank prison cells
in the first act are utterly convincing, and the layout of the huge,
magnificent German-occupied château looks, quite appropriately, like a
cross between a marvelous mansion and an impregnable fortress. The
battle scenes are well-choreographed, too. Never does a moment go by
where we do not know where one encounter is happening in relation to
what the rest of the squad is dealing with in and around the Château.
Frank de Vol's sweeping score is used sparingly, and adds to both the
humor and suspense of the picture. One scene, in which Donald
Sutherland's character "inspects" a platoon of the 82nd Airborne, is
set to a live orchestra's performance perfectly.
War is a really a dirty business this isn't a movie about men playing
by the rules. It's about breaking every rule in the book to get a job
done, and if a few innocent bystanders get in the way, they're simply
collateral damage. On a higher level, Aldrich's film reflects culture
attitudes of the late 60s. Moviegoers wanted a film which encouraged
breaking the rules, which showed the higher levels of the American
military as deeply flawed, and made the dregs of society into the
heroes of the piece. It's a cynical representation of the time it was
made in, but holds up flawlessly 40 years later, in a culture which has
probably been shaped by the attitudes the film reflects in every frame.
10/10
36 out of 48 people found the following comment useful :- Great fun movie with a great cast, 14 novembre 2003
Author:
bob the moo da Birmingham, UK
During World War II, Major Reisman is called to a high level meeting to
discuss his next mission to train a group of soldiers and prepare them for
a mission behind enemy lines. However the `soldiers' that Reisman has been
assigned are all sentenced to death or life in prison for their crimes. The
mission is a suicide mission on a French chateau where German top brass will
be, the aim being to kill as many as possible. But before the mission, the
group must pass a training to be considered for pardoning.
Well known by all men everywhere, this is less a serious war movie and more
an enjoyable ensemble romp through a training camp, with the final third
being the mission itself. This is the film's strength the training
sections are very enjoyable and good fun to watch. The mission is punchy
and dramatic and works very well as the conclusion to the film rather than
the whole film itself (which other `mission' films have to do). The
training is slick and enjoyable, not only it is occasionally quite funny but
it is also consistently amusing and exciting at turns.
The film's main selling point (increasingly so) is the all star cast, all of
whom do really good work. Marvin is tough in the lead and he is well
supported by Borgnine, Kennedy, Ryan and Jaeckel playing the other officers.
Of the prisoners Cassavetes steals the show with his cocky Franko although
he is not short of famous support. Sutherland (although not well known at
the time) is good comic relief, Savalas is a little too heavy for the film
but adds menace, Bronson is good value, Brown is strong and is well known
due to a weepy Billy Crystal! The rest of the dozen give good performances,
but I'll be honest and say that the famous faces stuck in my mind
more.
Overall this is not a wonderful film and, as a war movie it isn't the best
`mission' movie you could find (simply cause the mission is quite short and
straightforward. However it is a fun movie that never drags despite the
slightly longer than normal running time for this type of movie. The
training section and the mission itself combine to form an enjoyable film
that is driven by a great cast playing good characters.
25 out of 29 people found the following comment useful :- Splendidly Produced; a Tough and Tough-Minded Film, 19 giugno 2005
Author:
silverscreen888
Many viewers of film, myself include, rate this as one of the most
exciting "mission"'' stories of all time. Adapted from an intelligent
but Freudian source novel, the plot theme is a subtle one for a movie;
it's about convicted men in WWII being given odds for life in the form
of a suicide mission that may wipe their slates clean-- or perhaps
not... its main theme is self-assertion, set against its opposite,
enforced repression. The key to every action men undertake in this very
tough and and tough-minded Nunnnally Johnason and Lukas Heller script
is: "Is that person dealing with the reality of the world of and
his/her own responsibility to act?" From convict Telly Savalas'
character, mystical murderer of women who claims a divine calling to
punish their sexuality, to Charles Bronson and Jim Brown who reacted to
persecutions and are innocent by reason of self-defense, to their
leader, the mission's architect, Major Reisman, who wants his plan to
go forward his way despite resistance from brass, every man of the
outfit is tried against the same standard. Jimenez is climbing a rope
and says he can't make the tower; Franco refuses to shave because the
officers have hot water and he does not, Posey can't control his
temper, control-freak Col. Breed hates any man who does not go by the
book; etc. As a production, Robert Aldrich's direction is probably his
masterpiece; the acting is far above average, especially Lee Marvin,
Charles Bronson, Donald Sutherland, Clint Walker, Robert Webber,
energetic John Cassevetes and Al Mancini; the inspired casting of
powerful top-sergeant-level Ernest Borgnine as an obviously
far-beyond-his element general works brilliantly. The art direction,
special effects, sets, and music (by Frank de Vol) all complement a
taut script filled with memorable terse dialogue. Entire sequences such
as the selection interviews for the mission team, the building of the
camp, a visit to Breed's hq, Breed's invasion of the camp, the training
regimen, the "graduation party", Reisman's verbal defense of his men,
the war games' challenge, preparing for the mission, the early invasion
steps, Maggot's adlib, the attack by Reisman's team, the escape and the
hospital climax and denouement--all these sections are made memorable
to many admirers of this beautifully made and unusual story. As
officers attached to the mission, George Kennedy, Richard
Jaene-too-subtle secondary theme of the film is: the wrongness of
arbitrary power in anyone's hands, including Nazis, US army officers or
their brutal agents (such as Breed's men who beat up Charles Bronson
for information). The film is about individuals who when they harm no
one else and are effective human beings, men who can always get the job
done, always control themselves. who need to be free to operate. Such
men the film says are "heroes"--men with an unusual ability to create
results on Earth; the sort of men films ought to be made about in a
nation that talks individualism and claims to value capability. This is
a great adventure, of enduring artistry, occasional brutality and
intelligently-developed dialogue. It has logical actions, and
spectacular physical performances and This is a strong and
well-thought-out adventure film, one of the richest of its genre, to be
watched many times.
25 out of 33 people found the following comment useful :- Now That Is What I Would Call 12 Angry Men., 30 ottobre 2003
Author:
tfrizzell da United States
Heart-pounding and adrenaline-rushing action giant that still packs a punch
that will knock you out. A dozen criminals (Oscar-nominee John Cassavetes,
Telly Savalas, Jim Brown, Charles Bronson and Donald Sutherland being the
major standouts) are trained for a suicide mission into Nazi territory in
1944 and act as assassins. If you want to catch a thief, you hire a thief
and that is the same principle used throughout this impressive motion
picture. Lee Marvin does some of his best work as the leader of the rag-tag
bunch of miscreants. Serves its purpose to near perfection. 4.5 out of 5
stars.
14 out of 15 people found the following comment useful :- A violent war film, and a great action-adventure entertainment..., 16 gennaio 2000
Author:
ironside (robertfrangie@hotmail.com) da Mexico
*** This comment may contain spoilers ***
Robert Aldrich seemed torn between American heroism or to indulge in a
celebration of violence with an intriguing angle on combat in World War
II adventure...
A dozen dangerous criminals (thieves, murderers, rapists, psychopaths)
- serving life sentences - offered a chance of pardon if they take part
in a hazardous commando mission... They are trained to kill on a
different level under the leadership of an insubordinate major, very
short on discipline, and dropped in parachute near Rennes in Brittany
to destroy a large fortified château used as a rest center and a
conference place for general staff officers...
The initial tension between Major John Reisman (Lee Marvin) and the
convicts quickly collapses while Aldrich's ability was building
considerable tough action scenes...
Aldrich didn't neglect the character development of his superb cast
offering some insights into the personalities of this unusual
recruits... His believes that self-interest is the motive of all human
conduct... Aldrich filled the sense of outrage of his characters, a
sense so brave and different in "Attack," in 1957.
The claims about capital punishment and the anti-militarism spirit were
quickly discarded in favor of the terrific and cruel action scenes: the
bloody climax which has a considerable number of German officers with
the benefit of female companionship, all trapped in a bomb shelter...
Marvin and Oscar Nominee John Cassavetes stand out among the cast...
Lee Marvin creates the most interesting and influential violent hero:
the sardonic major!
The game of death is played at its best in a powerful man's picture...
"The Dirty Dozen" formula was held later in André De Toth's "Play
Dirty" in which a group of ex-criminals led by Captain Michael Caine,
destroy a German oil depot in the North African campaign in World War
II.
14 out of 16 people found the following comment useful :- The Greatest War Adventure of all time, 18 luglio 2001
Author:
Mark Pizzey da Reading, England
This is one of the most entertaining action packed war films ever made with
a tremendous cast playing unique characters. I first saw this film when I
was about 8 year old and thought it was the best thing I'd seen on
TV.
Lee Marvin heads the cast as an unorthadox, short on discipline rebellious
Major during World War II whose given a suicidal mission by a bunch of
Generals headed by the excellent Ernest Borgnine. He must take 12 convicts
train them and take them on a mission behind enemy lines to destroy a large
chateau and kill a large number of important German officers who'll be
partying there that night.
The films explosive climax is fantastic as you know inevitably that not
everyone will survive the mission and by now you've sort of chosen who your
favourite characters are. The build up and the training scenes are also
brilliant as you discover the backgrounds behind these violent
criminals.
It's Marvin's show but John Cassavettes is superb as Victor Franco, in fact
with a supporting cast featuring Robert Ryan, Charles Bronson, Telly
Savalas, Donald Sutherland, George Kennedy and Clint Walker you know you're
in for a great ride, nobody is wasted.
There's a lot of humour mixed with quite serious issues...you sometimes
forget that this band of jokers are killers with only one chance to survive
a mission they are hardly trained for.
This classic is on par with The Great Escape and Where Eagles Dare, Three
inferior TV movies were made in the mid eighties which basically take the
same idea from the original but they are obviously no match.
It's available on video and DVD and every home should have a
copy.
Flawless.
12 out of 13 people found the following comment useful :- Political Correctness Gone Too Far, 17 giugno 2003
Author:
ShoreBetz da Delaware
*** This comment may contain spoilers ***
I'm a bit surprised by the critics who have a problem with the "disgusting"
ending of this film. First of all, the "burning to death" or "bombing" of
the civilians is not graphically portrayed. Some comments would have you
believe that it's shown with "Private Ryan" realism. I have a hard time
believing that a 10-year-old was shocked into crying hysterics by the ending
of this movie.
Secondly, perhaps the film makers WANTED the audience to feel uneasy,
ambiguous, or even a bit disgusted. War IS hell, remember? Which is why 11
of the 12 die on the mission.
And while the Nazis are not portrayed as evil caricatures, anyone who sees
them as "victims" needs a history lesson. Overall, I think the film makers
were trying for the 1967 version of "realism." That's why the film presents
an effective mix of humor, horror, and drama.
19 out of 28 people found the following comment useful :- A well structured and interesting story, although poorly edited in the final act, 20 febbraio 2005
Author:
Richard Brunton (imdb-update@brunton.org.uk) da Edinburgh, Scotland
It's difficult when you approach an old movie to see it for the first
time and you have to try and drop all the baggage associated with it
from reviews and analysis over the years. The Dirty Dozen is such a
movie. I just watched it for the first time last night on TV, clipped
though it was for those smaller brained people among us who don't like
to see dark bits at the top and bottom of their screens.
It's interesting that there are three real character acts to this
movie. There's the dark opening and character introduction, the fun act
where the characters meld together into a team, and the closing act
where the mission, and the war, become a stark and deadly reality. That
last act is dark too, although there a couple of accidental laughs in
there for the worst character expression at a death ever, and one
particularly bad death scene.
What does strike you about the opening is how really dark it all is.
We're talking about murders who are looking at to be retrained. Indeed
one is a rapist with a serious God complex who is bordering on utterly
insane. They are about to be hanged for their crimes, but have one last
chance. Poor Major John Reisman has no say in the matter, he has his
band and has to make them work.
It's well filmed for the first two character acts, and the acting is
very good. John Cassavetes and Telly Savalas are wonderful in their
roles. In fact it's a surprise to see Savalas in such a role and
shining so brightly. Donald Sutherland also shows he has some excellent
character acting in him. The rest are far from bad, but you can see a
lot of typecasting for them.
The movement from the dark opening to the more jovial training act is
interesting to watch, as this is exactly how many of the characters are
seeing it, as a bit of fun. What they aren't expecting is the third
character act, that of the actual war itself, and for some this proves
too much.
The difficulty I had with the final act is only in the filming. There
are premature cuts, awkward angles and jumping storytelling. So much is
missed by the camera, and it doesn't feel like it's there to let your
imagination run, it seems like someone has cut the film deliberately,
and quite badly. There are quite a few scene transitions that just
don't work at all.
However, where it doesn't fail is bringing the characters to their
ultimate journey, that of redemption and a renewed desire to fight for
their Major, and their fellow men. They become soldiers, and indeed
heroes.
It's a good war film to watch, very well structured and reflective of
the characters journeys. It's just that final act for me which spoiled
my enjoyment, and purely in the filming of it.
8 out of 10 people found the following comment useful :- "Feed the French, Kill the Germans", 7 aprile 2007
Author:
bkoganbing da Buffalo, New York
John Wayne who apparently was offered the part of Major Reisman
probably wisely turned it down. Wayne would never have done in the part
of the maverick major in charge of training the way Lee Marvin was so
perfect in the role. In fact Marvin's and the performance of others in
the cast helped The Dirty Dozen get over two very big improbable
situations I have always found in this film.
The first one being the way the conflict between Robert Ryan and Lee
Marvin is handled. I can certainly see why a spit and polish West Point
graduate like Ryan would not like Marvin, why Marvin would rub him the
wrong way. But I cannot understand why when the Dozen are transferred
to his command for parachute training they don't tell him what's going
on. I would think he would have a need to know. Then again a whole big
part of the film wouldn't have occurred if Ryan had been let in on
Marvin's mission.
The second thing is that granted these guys might be considered
expendable to say the least with several of the dozen scheduled for a
firing squad, but the army would want to make sure the mission had some
chance of succeeding. There's no way, absolutely no bloody way, that a
psychotic like Telly Savalas would have been allowed on the mission.
And why Lee Marvin didn't scrub him when psychiatrist Ralph Meeker
offered to is beyond me as well.
Those glaring holes in the story have always prevented me from giving
The Dirty Dozen the top rating that most have given it. But it hasn't
prevented me from enjoying the film.
The basic idea of the film appeals to me. An unorthodox major taking a
group of nonconformists to say the least and making them a crack
fighting outfit. Regular army training did not do it for this crew the
first time around.
Charles Bronson is one of the dozen and this film certainly put him
well on the way to top billing. A dozen years later in fact he'd have
it over Lee Marvin in Death Hunt. Jim Brown also having just finished
his football career began his movie career with a winning performance
as another of the dozen. John Cassavetes was singled out for a Best
Supporting Actor nomination. Also Donald Sutherland got his first real
notice as yet another of the dozen.
A year later William Holden and Cliff Robertson did The Devil's Brigade
which bore a lot of resemblance to The Dirty Dozen. It got slammed by
critics for ripping off from The Dirty Dozen. The only problem was that
Holden's film was based on a real outfit and The Dirty Dozen is pure
fiction. Only in movieland.
Marvin's mission is to infiltrate and kill a lot of the German high
command as they gather at a French château in the weeks before D-Day.
How he does is something you have to watch The Dirty Dozen before. But
I think you'll like seeing what happens.
8 out of 10 people found the following comment useful :- Smell the testosterone! The Dirty Dozen is the quintessential "guys on a mission" movie!, 8 giugno 2003
Author:
Infofreak da Perth, Australia
Quentin Tarantino looks like he just might follow through with his threat
to
make the ultimate "guys on a mission movie" if he gets his 'Inglorious
Bastards' on to the big screen, but he'll be pushed to equal 'The Dirty
Dozen', the quintessential movie in the genre. 35 years on and it's still
one of the best WW2 adventure movies, and a strong contender for the
ultimate guys movie. It shouldn't be taken too seriously - I don't think
anyone is going to argue it's a realistic depiction of war - but it's
still
one of the most entertaining movies around, and it's impressive collection
of tough guys and character actors is really hard to beat. Director
Aldrich
had previously made the classic noir 'Kiss Me Deadly' (starring Ralph
Meeker
who reappears here in a supporting role) and the wonderfully creepy
'Whatever Happened To Baby Jane', but this is arguably going to be THE
movie
he's remembered for. Screen legend Lee Marvin ('Point Blank', 'The
Killers')
with the assistance of his Sgt (Richard Jaeckel), must train a motley
collection of criminal and misfits (including John Cassavetes, Jim Brown,
Telly Savalas, Charles Bronson, Clint Walker and Donald Sutherland), for a
suicide mission behind enemy lines. Marvin is just great, extremely cool
and
charismatic, but also a fine actor, something which is often overlooked.
The
ensemble cast (which also includes George Kennedy, and two future stars of
'The Wild Bunch', Ernest Borgnine and Robert Ryan) are uniformly
excellent,
but Cassavetes is particularly outstanding, Sutherland is memorable as a
half wit, and Savalas is unforgettable as the religious psychopath
Maggott.
'The Dirty Dozen' is first class entertainment and highly recommended. It
put 90% of today's "action movies" to shame!
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31 out of 33 people found the following comment useful :-

Excellent WWII Action Piece and Representation of 60s Pop Culture, 28 marzo 2005
Author: SgtSlaughter da St. Davids, Pennsylvania, USA
Acclaimed director Robert Aldrich (also famous to war film buffs for his rule-breaking drama, "Attack") twists the familiar 'unit picture' into a famous story of unexpected heroism in the midst of World War II. Instead of making his heroes clean-cut, American draftees, we're looking at the dirtiest convicts the Armed Forces has got to offer.
OSS Major Reisman (Lee Marvin, "Hell in the Pacific") is an insubordinate Army officer who's facing a court-martial, when he's given one last chance for a reprieve: select twelve Army prisoners from a maximum-security detention center, train them for a top-secret mission behind the German lines, and then lead them into battle. If they succeed in the mission, they'll be released. For Reisman, it's a tough call, but it's his only chance to save his career.
The men he was to work with are a mixed batch, and director Aldrich packs a lot of character development into a two-and-a-half-hour movie. The most important of the "Dirty Dozen" is Franko, a small-time Chicago hoodlum who's facing the gallows for robbery and subsequent murder of a British civilian. It's clear from the start that Franko is a loner who thinks he's big stuff, but Reisman manages to prove that he's really all talk. More than once, he considers and even attempts escape from the remote training camp that the Dozen are forced to build but maybe, just maybe, beneath that rebellious attitude, there's a chance for redemption.
Then there are some more sympathetic types: Wladislaw (Charles Bronson, "Battle of the Bulge") was once a front-line infantryman who shot his platoon's medic when the medic got scared under fire and started running Bronson says "He took off with all the medical supplies only way to stop him was to shoot him." Jefferson (Jim Brown, "Ice Station Zebra") has been convicted for murder his defense is he was defending himself from vicious, racist MPs who were abusing him. Wladislaw and Jefferson find themselves allied in order to get Franko on their side, because they have faith in Reisman and aren't willing to let Franko's rebellion become infectious.
Also in fine support is Clint Walker ("None But the Brave") as the big Navajo, Posey, who punched a man too hard for shoving him. He really didn't mean to kill him; he just doesn't like being pushes. Posey comes off as a cuddly teddy bear who'd never intentionally hurt a soul, and it's clear from the start that he's one of the good guys. Finally, Telly Savalas ("Kelly's Heroes") lends a hand as the psychotic, racist, religious fanatic Maggot, who believes his job is to punish the other 11 men for their "wickedness". His motives are never really clear; all we really know is that Maggot is somewhat unhinged and potentially dangerous.
Even though Reisman and his squad don't get along, they're forced to become Allied against a common enemy the American General Staff, who want to do nothing short of shut the operation down. Aldrich again breaks the rules, making the conventionally "good guys" into the enemy. The Germans are barely mentioned throughout the first two acts, and only become involved for the explosive finale. The heart of this movie is anti-establishment behavior, right in the vein of popular Vietnam attitudes. The good guys are the unshaven criminals, and the bad guys are the clean-cut, well-dressed Generals who come across as stupid and vain. As Colonel Everett Dasher Breed, Robert Ryan ("Flying Leathernecks") makes an excellent bully, a villain that the Dozen eventually unite to take action against.
Once the men have been trained and are finally cooperating and acting as a unit, it's time to set them loose on the Nazis. And still, the story doesn't become stereotypical. The mission is simple: the men will parachute into occupied France, penetrate a château being used as a rest center for high-level German officers, and kill as many of said officers as possible in a short amount of time. This operation involves stabbing defenseless women, machine-gunning prisoners, and finally, locking several dozen German officers and their mistresses in an underground bomb shelter, pouring gasoline down on them through air vent, loading said air vents with hand grenades, and then blowing up the whole place.
Characters and story aside, the film benefits from some superb editing by Michael Luciano. Director Aldrich and cinematographer Edward Scaife work hand in hand to compose every shot. The cramped, dank prison cells in the first act are utterly convincing, and the layout of the huge, magnificent German-occupied château looks, quite appropriately, like a cross between a marvelous mansion and an impregnable fortress. The battle scenes are well-choreographed, too. Never does a moment go by where we do not know where one encounter is happening in relation to what the rest of the squad is dealing with in and around the Château. Frank de Vol's sweeping score is used sparingly, and adds to both the humor and suspense of the picture. One scene, in which Donald Sutherland's character "inspects" a platoon of the 82nd Airborne, is set to a live orchestra's performance perfectly.
War is a really a dirty business this isn't a movie about men playing by the rules. It's about breaking every rule in the book to get a job done, and if a few innocent bystanders get in the way, they're simply collateral damage. On a higher level, Aldrich's film reflects culture attitudes of the late 60s. Moviegoers wanted a film which encouraged breaking the rules, which showed the higher levels of the American military as deeply flawed, and made the dregs of society into the heroes of the piece. It's a cynical representation of the time it was made in, but holds up flawlessly 40 years later, in a culture which has probably been shaped by the attitudes the film reflects in every frame.
10/10
36 out of 48 people found the following comment useful :-
Great fun movie with a great cast, 14 novembre 2003
Author: bob the moo da Birmingham, UK
During World War II, Major Reisman is called to a high level meeting to discuss his next mission to train a group of soldiers and prepare them for a mission behind enemy lines. However the `soldiers' that Reisman has been assigned are all sentenced to death or life in prison for their crimes. The mission is a suicide mission on a French chateau where German top brass will be, the aim being to kill as many as possible. But before the mission, the group must pass a training to be considered for pardoning.
Well known by all men everywhere, this is less a serious war movie and more an enjoyable ensemble romp through a training camp, with the final third being the mission itself. This is the film's strength the training sections are very enjoyable and good fun to watch. The mission is punchy and dramatic and works very well as the conclusion to the film rather than the whole film itself (which other `mission' films have to do). The training is slick and enjoyable, not only it is occasionally quite funny but it is also consistently amusing and exciting at turns.
The film's main selling point (increasingly so) is the all star cast, all of whom do really good work. Marvin is tough in the lead and he is well supported by Borgnine, Kennedy, Ryan and Jaeckel playing the other officers. Of the prisoners Cassavetes steals the show with his cocky Franko although he is not short of famous support. Sutherland (although not well known at the time) is good comic relief, Savalas is a little too heavy for the film but adds menace, Bronson is good value, Brown is strong and is well known due to a weepy Billy Crystal! The rest of the dozen give good performances, but I'll be honest and say that the famous faces stuck in my mind more.
Overall this is not a wonderful film and, as a war movie it isn't the best `mission' movie you could find (simply cause the mission is quite short and straightforward. However it is a fun movie that never drags despite the slightly longer than normal running time for this type of movie. The training section and the mission itself combine to form an enjoyable film that is driven by a great cast playing good characters.
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Splendidly Produced; a Tough and Tough-Minded Film, 19 giugno 2005
Author: silverscreen888
Many viewers of film, myself include, rate this as one of the most exciting "mission"'' stories of all time. Adapted from an intelligent but Freudian source novel, the plot theme is a subtle one for a movie; it's about convicted men in WWII being given odds for life in the form of a suicide mission that may wipe their slates clean-- or perhaps not... its main theme is self-assertion, set against its opposite, enforced repression. The key to every action men undertake in this very tough and and tough-minded Nunnnally Johnason and Lukas Heller script is: "Is that person dealing with the reality of the world of and his/her own responsibility to act?" From convict Telly Savalas' character, mystical murderer of women who claims a divine calling to punish their sexuality, to Charles Bronson and Jim Brown who reacted to persecutions and are innocent by reason of self-defense, to their leader, the mission's architect, Major Reisman, who wants his plan to go forward his way despite resistance from brass, every man of the outfit is tried against the same standard. Jimenez is climbing a rope and says he can't make the tower; Franco refuses to shave because the officers have hot water and he does not, Posey can't control his temper, control-freak Col. Breed hates any man who does not go by the book; etc. As a production, Robert Aldrich's direction is probably his masterpiece; the acting is far above average, especially Lee Marvin, Charles Bronson, Donald Sutherland, Clint Walker, Robert Webber, energetic John Cassevetes and Al Mancini; the inspired casting of powerful top-sergeant-level Ernest Borgnine as an obviously far-beyond-his element general works brilliantly. The art direction, special effects, sets, and music (by Frank de Vol) all complement a taut script filled with memorable terse dialogue. Entire sequences such as the selection interviews for the mission team, the building of the camp, a visit to Breed's hq, Breed's invasion of the camp, the training regimen, the "graduation party", Reisman's verbal defense of his men, the war games' challenge, preparing for the mission, the early invasion steps, Maggot's adlib, the attack by Reisman's team, the escape and the hospital climax and denouement--all these sections are made memorable to many admirers of this beautifully made and unusual story. As officers attached to the mission, George Kennedy, Richard Jaene-too-subtle secondary theme of the film is: the wrongness of arbitrary power in anyone's hands, including Nazis, US army officers or their brutal agents (such as Breed's men who beat up Charles Bronson for information). The film is about individuals who when they harm no one else and are effective human beings, men who can always get the job done, always control themselves. who need to be free to operate. Such men the film says are "heroes"--men with an unusual ability to create results on Earth; the sort of men films ought to be made about in a nation that talks individualism and claims to value capability. This is a great adventure, of enduring artistry, occasional brutality and intelligently-developed dialogue. It has logical actions, and spectacular physical performances and This is a strong and well-thought-out adventure film, one of the richest of its genre, to be watched many times.
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Now That Is What I Would Call 12 Angry Men., 30 ottobre 2003
Author: tfrizzell da United States
Heart-pounding and adrenaline-rushing action giant that still packs a punch that will knock you out. A dozen criminals (Oscar-nominee John Cassavetes, Telly Savalas, Jim Brown, Charles Bronson and Donald Sutherland being the major standouts) are trained for a suicide mission into Nazi territory in 1944 and act as assassins. If you want to catch a thief, you hire a thief and that is the same principle used throughout this impressive motion picture. Lee Marvin does some of his best work as the leader of the rag-tag bunch of miscreants. Serves its purpose to near perfection. 4.5 out of 5 stars.
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A violent war film, and a great action-adventure entertainment..., 16 gennaio 2000
Author: ironside (robertfrangie@hotmail.com) da Mexico
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Robert Aldrich seemed torn between American heroism or to indulge in a celebration of violence with an intriguing angle on combat in World War II adventure...
A dozen dangerous criminals (thieves, murderers, rapists, psychopaths) - serving life sentences - offered a chance of pardon if they take part in a hazardous commando mission... They are trained to kill on a different level under the leadership of an insubordinate major, very short on discipline, and dropped in parachute near Rennes in Brittany to destroy a large fortified château used as a rest center and a conference place for general staff officers...
The initial tension between Major John Reisman (Lee Marvin) and the convicts quickly collapses while Aldrich's ability was building considerable tough action scenes...
Aldrich didn't neglect the character development of his superb cast offering some insights into the personalities of this unusual recruits... His believes that self-interest is the motive of all human conduct... Aldrich filled the sense of outrage of his characters, a sense so brave and different in "Attack," in 1957.
The claims about capital punishment and the anti-militarism spirit were quickly discarded in favor of the terrific and cruel action scenes: the bloody climax which has a considerable number of German officers with the benefit of female companionship, all trapped in a bomb shelter...
Marvin and Oscar Nominee John Cassavetes stand out among the cast...
Lee Marvin creates the most interesting and influential violent hero: the sardonic major!
The game of death is played at its best in a powerful man's picture...
"The Dirty Dozen" formula was held later in André De Toth's "Play Dirty" in which a group of ex-criminals led by Captain Michael Caine, destroy a German oil depot in the North African campaign in World War II.
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The Greatest War Adventure of all time, 18 luglio 2001
Author: Mark Pizzey da Reading, England
This is one of the most entertaining action packed war films ever made with a tremendous cast playing unique characters. I first saw this film when I was about 8 year old and thought it was the best thing I'd seen on TV.
Lee Marvin heads the cast as an unorthadox, short on discipline rebellious Major during World War II whose given a suicidal mission by a bunch of Generals headed by the excellent Ernest Borgnine. He must take 12 convicts train them and take them on a mission behind enemy lines to destroy a large chateau and kill a large number of important German officers who'll be partying there that night.
The films explosive climax is fantastic as you know inevitably that not everyone will survive the mission and by now you've sort of chosen who your favourite characters are. The build up and the training scenes are also brilliant as you discover the backgrounds behind these violent criminals.
It's Marvin's show but John Cassavettes is superb as Victor Franco, in fact with a supporting cast featuring Robert Ryan, Charles Bronson, Telly Savalas, Donald Sutherland, George Kennedy and Clint Walker you know you're in for a great ride, nobody is wasted.
There's a lot of humour mixed with quite serious issues...you sometimes forget that this band of jokers are killers with only one chance to survive a mission they are hardly trained for.
This classic is on par with The Great Escape and Where Eagles Dare, Three inferior TV movies were made in the mid eighties which basically take the same idea from the original but they are obviously no match.
It's available on video and DVD and every home should have a copy. Flawless.
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Political Correctness Gone Too Far, 17 giugno 2003
Author: ShoreBetz da Delaware
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I'm a bit surprised by the critics who have a problem with the "disgusting" ending of this film. First of all, the "burning to death" or "bombing" of the civilians is not graphically portrayed. Some comments would have you believe that it's shown with "Private Ryan" realism. I have a hard time believing that a 10-year-old was shocked into crying hysterics by the ending of this movie.
Secondly, perhaps the film makers WANTED the audience to feel uneasy, ambiguous, or even a bit disgusted. War IS hell, remember? Which is why 11 of the 12 die on the mission.
And while the Nazis are not portrayed as evil caricatures, anyone who sees them as "victims" needs a history lesson. Overall, I think the film makers were trying for the 1967 version of "realism." That's why the film presents an effective mix of humor, horror, and drama.
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A well structured and interesting story, although poorly edited in the final act, 20 febbraio 2005
Author: Richard Brunton (imdb-update@brunton.org.uk) da Edinburgh, Scotland
It's difficult when you approach an old movie to see it for the first time and you have to try and drop all the baggage associated with it from reviews and analysis over the years. The Dirty Dozen is such a movie. I just watched it for the first time last night on TV, clipped though it was for those smaller brained people among us who don't like to see dark bits at the top and bottom of their screens.
It's interesting that there are three real character acts to this movie. There's the dark opening and character introduction, the fun act where the characters meld together into a team, and the closing act where the mission, and the war, become a stark and deadly reality. That last act is dark too, although there a couple of accidental laughs in there for the worst character expression at a death ever, and one particularly bad death scene.
What does strike you about the opening is how really dark it all is. We're talking about murders who are looking at to be retrained. Indeed one is a rapist with a serious God complex who is bordering on utterly insane. They are about to be hanged for their crimes, but have one last chance. Poor Major John Reisman has no say in the matter, he has his band and has to make them work.
It's well filmed for the first two character acts, and the acting is very good. John Cassavetes and Telly Savalas are wonderful in their roles. In fact it's a surprise to see Savalas in such a role and shining so brightly. Donald Sutherland also shows he has some excellent character acting in him. The rest are far from bad, but you can see a lot of typecasting for them.
The movement from the dark opening to the more jovial training act is interesting to watch, as this is exactly how many of the characters are seeing it, as a bit of fun. What they aren't expecting is the third character act, that of the actual war itself, and for some this proves too much.
The difficulty I had with the final act is only in the filming. There are premature cuts, awkward angles and jumping storytelling. So much is missed by the camera, and it doesn't feel like it's there to let your imagination run, it seems like someone has cut the film deliberately, and quite badly. There are quite a few scene transitions that just don't work at all.
However, where it doesn't fail is bringing the characters to their ultimate journey, that of redemption and a renewed desire to fight for their Major, and their fellow men. They become soldiers, and indeed heroes.
It's a good war film to watch, very well structured and reflective of the characters journeys. It's just that final act for me which spoiled my enjoyment, and purely in the filming of it.
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"Feed the French, Kill the Germans", 7 aprile 2007
Author: bkoganbing da Buffalo, New York
John Wayne who apparently was offered the part of Major Reisman probably wisely turned it down. Wayne would never have done in the part of the maverick major in charge of training the way Lee Marvin was so perfect in the role. In fact Marvin's and the performance of others in the cast helped The Dirty Dozen get over two very big improbable situations I have always found in this film.
The first one being the way the conflict between Robert Ryan and Lee Marvin is handled. I can certainly see why a spit and polish West Point graduate like Ryan would not like Marvin, why Marvin would rub him the wrong way. But I cannot understand why when the Dozen are transferred to his command for parachute training they don't tell him what's going on. I would think he would have a need to know. Then again a whole big part of the film wouldn't have occurred if Ryan had been let in on Marvin's mission.
The second thing is that granted these guys might be considered expendable to say the least with several of the dozen scheduled for a firing squad, but the army would want to make sure the mission had some chance of succeeding. There's no way, absolutely no bloody way, that a psychotic like Telly Savalas would have been allowed on the mission. And why Lee Marvin didn't scrub him when psychiatrist Ralph Meeker offered to is beyond me as well.
Those glaring holes in the story have always prevented me from giving The Dirty Dozen the top rating that most have given it. But it hasn't prevented me from enjoying the film.
The basic idea of the film appeals to me. An unorthodox major taking a group of nonconformists to say the least and making them a crack fighting outfit. Regular army training did not do it for this crew the first time around.
Charles Bronson is one of the dozen and this film certainly put him well on the way to top billing. A dozen years later in fact he'd have it over Lee Marvin in Death Hunt. Jim Brown also having just finished his football career began his movie career with a winning performance as another of the dozen. John Cassavetes was singled out for a Best Supporting Actor nomination. Also Donald Sutherland got his first real notice as yet another of the dozen.
A year later William Holden and Cliff Robertson did The Devil's Brigade which bore a lot of resemblance to The Dirty Dozen. It got slammed by critics for ripping off from The Dirty Dozen. The only problem was that Holden's film was based on a real outfit and The Dirty Dozen is pure fiction. Only in movieland.
Marvin's mission is to infiltrate and kill a lot of the German high command as they gather at a French château in the weeks before D-Day. How he does is something you have to watch The Dirty Dozen before. But I think you'll like seeing what happens.
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Smell the testosterone! The Dirty Dozen is the quintessential "guys on a mission" movie!, 8 giugno 2003
Author: Infofreak da Perth, Australia
Quentin Tarantino looks like he just might follow through with his threat to make the ultimate "guys on a mission movie" if he gets his 'Inglorious Bastards' on to the big screen, but he'll be pushed to equal 'The Dirty Dozen', the quintessential movie in the genre. 35 years on and it's still one of the best WW2 adventure movies, and a strong contender for the ultimate guys movie. It shouldn't be taken too seriously - I don't think anyone is going to argue it's a realistic depiction of war - but it's still one of the most entertaining movies around, and it's impressive collection of tough guys and character actors is really hard to beat. Director Aldrich had previously made the classic noir 'Kiss Me Deadly' (starring Ralph Meeker who reappears here in a supporting role) and the wonderfully creepy 'Whatever Happened To Baby Jane', but this is arguably going to be THE movie he's remembered for. Screen legend Lee Marvin ('Point Blank', 'The Killers') with the assistance of his Sgt (Richard Jaeckel), must train a motley collection of criminal and misfits (including John Cassavetes, Jim Brown, Telly Savalas, Charles Bronson, Clint Walker and Donald Sutherland), for a suicide mission behind enemy lines. Marvin is just great, extremely cool and charismatic, but also a fine actor, something which is often overlooked. The ensemble cast (which also includes George Kennedy, and two future stars of 'The Wild Bunch', Ernest Borgnine and Robert Ryan) are uniformly excellent, but Cassavetes is particularly outstanding, Sutherland is memorable as a half wit, and Savalas is unforgettable as the religious psychopath Maggott. 'The Dirty Dozen' is first class entertainment and highly recommended. It put 90% of today's "action movies" to shame!
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